Dr. Monica Harden is a practicing chiropractor, competitive powerlifter, and instructor for Prehab 101, a preventive physical therapy designed to optimize movement and physical strength while reducing the risk of injury and pain.
While traditionally prehab was termed to prepare patients for recovery after surgery, Dr. Jacob Harden, Monica’s spouse and founder of Prehab 101, recognized that anyone could benefit from the core principles of this therapeutic approach.
Train hard, train heavy, and you’ll be surprised at what you can do.”
Monica’s involvement with this approach began after her own injury and recovery. She now facilitates teaching this interdisciplinary technique to health and fitness professionals around the world, while preparing to open a practice in Orlando. In this episode, Monica shares her personal journey from athlete, to student, to injured doctor turned powerlifter, and now a mother and entrepreneur.
You can follow Dr. Harden on Instagram @quaddoc.
And look out for upcoming Prehab 101 Seminars by following Dr. Harden online.
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|00:00 – 03:00||Introduction|
|03:00 – 04:22||Monica’s Background|
|04:23 – 07:25||Yoga & Breathing|
|07:26 – 08:30||Lifting for Rehab|
|08:31 – 12:00||Powerlifting|
|12:00 – 13:50||How Powerlifting Impacts Her Rehab Perspective|
|13:51 – 16:02||Teaching & Chiropractic Education|
|16:03 – 17:42||Sharing Knowledge – Therapists, Trainers, Chiros|
|17:43 – 20:02||Being A Parent|
|20:03 – 21:05||Role In Prehab 101|
|21:06 – 23:43||Social Media|
|23:44 – 27:00||Shotgun Questions|
|27:01 – 28:49||Outro|
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Dan Weber: Hello and thank you for tuning into the HeroFit Podcast, where we love to talk fitness, nutrition, and ways you can level up your health and wellness. I am Dan Weber with my co-host Nick Stutzman.
Dan Weber: Today, we are joined by Dr. Monica Harden. She’s a doctor of chiropractic medicine and a powerlifter from Orlando, Florida. Dr. Harden owns her own chiropractic office and is also a teacher for the Prehab101 Seminar, created by her husband. She treats work out enthusiasts and athletes of all ages using rehabilitative exercises, myofascial release, and chiropractic adjustments.
Dan Weber: Today, we’re going to talk to her about her treatment approach, her experience competing in USAPL Powerlifting, owning a business, being a mom, and much more. Monica, welcome to the show.
Monica Harden: Thank you guys. Thanks for having me here. This is my first podcast so let’s have some fun.
Nick Stutzman: Yeah, well welcome to the show. So, yeah. Starting us out here, bring us up to speed with why you’re here in Toronto.
Monica Harden: Sure. Absolutely. We’re here teaching a course, Prehab101. We’ll be hosting it tomorrow and I want to say Sunday as well. But also prior to that, we’re here doing this podcast, yay. Then we’ll also be speaking at Physio Night Out. I’ll be speaking about exercise and pregnancy, which is something I get asked about a lot. So, that is why we’re here in Toronto.
Nick Stutzman: And to bring it back, beginning, your schooling, stuff like that, what got you started in this area?
Monica Harden: In this particular area, do you mean chiropractic or …
Nick Stutzman: A little bit of everything, how about that? Just start off-
Monica Harden: Little bit of everything. Okay.
Monica Harden: Well, I guess I’ve always been a tomboy. I’ve always enjoyed being outside, playing in sports. In particular, soccer is the sport that I took to and played that probably the longest. Also, enjoyed running, yoga, added that stuff mostly in college.
Monica Harden: Then got into lifting because I got so injured to the point where I actually couldn’t run, couldn’t even do yoga, which seems kind of impossible, but it can happen-
Nick Stutzman: Yeah, that sounds crazy to me.
Dan Weber: I’ve been to the point where I couldn’t run so I know what that’s like.
Monica Harden: That was bilateral plantar fasciitis that got me there. That sucked.
Nick Stutzman: And see, now for me, I’m not that flexible so now I’m trying to turn to yoga to become flexible. So, it’s the opposite because it’s supplementing my weight lifting and what not.
Monica Harden: Ah, okay. I always found it interesting anytime you watch a show in Hollywood, they’re always with low back pain or like do you want to get [inaudible 00:03:43], “Well, have you tried yoga?” That’s what they always say.
Nick Stutzman: I could be doing it wrong. That could be a thing.
Monica Harden: Nah, it’s your practice, namaste. You get to do what you want.
Nick Stutzman: I’m just starting.
Dan Weber: It’s a lifestyle.
Monica Harden: That’s right.
Dan Weber: He’s going to be in it soon enough.
Nick Stutzman: Last night was my fifth class ever, so yeah, just trying to immerse myself into it.
Monica Harden: Hey, it’s interesting. It took me a while to get into it, mostly because I have such a busy mind. It’s really hard for me to shut it off. But I think that was the part I enjoyed the most, was learning to shut all that noise off and just enjoy it.
Nick Stutzman: Focus on the breathing. That was the thing last night.
Monica Harden: Oh, there you go.
Nick Stutzman: I was doing that on the drive up here.
Monica Harden: Oh.
Nick Stutzman: I was like, I’m going to try to focus on breathing through my abdomen.
Dan Weber: Being present.
Monica Harden: That’s right.
Nick Stutzman: And just doing the deep breaths. I can’t remember what the instructor called that.
Monica Harden: Was it fire breathing? I know they can do that pretty rapidly, inhale, exhale, and you get a little weird runners high with it. That was funky.
Nick Stutzman: Yeah.
Monica Harden: But, yeah, been there done that.
Nick Stutzman: No, it wasn’t-
Dan Weber: Almost like Wim Hof?
Monica Harden: Yeah. Yeah.
Nick Stutzman: Yeah, it wasn’t that. It was some kind of … I don’t know. Like I said, I don’t know all of the … We’re still trying to get all the asanas and all that other stuff done.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah. I didn’t even try the Indian names. I was like, “No. Just give me tree, downward dog. I got that. I can do that. Don’t throw the other names.” I’ll be like, “Uh.” I’ll just start looking around and being like, “What’s everyone else doing?”
Nick Stutzman: But yeah, just getting the breathing thing, that’s half the battle.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah. It actually is important because with lifting and especially with the movements with yoga, you do end up timing breathing with it.
Nick Stutzman: I’ve noticed that a lot with squats and deadlifts.
Monica Harden: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Nick Stutzman: People are timing their breathing, whether it’s pulling in or out with that as well. I think that’s something that I’m more cognizant now, doing yoga as well, with different movements. You’re doing what they call the flow part of it and stuff like that.
Monica Harden: Yes. Yes. Another thing that I do like, that I do find similar between the two, is being comfortable with being uncomfortable. That concept actually carries through with lifting and also with yoga.
Nick Stutzman: Yeah. There was a yoga I took last week, where you’re holding for a long period of time.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah.
Nick Stutzman: That was very painful.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah. Was it pigeon? They love to torture everyone with pigeon, I feel.
Nick Stutzman: Flying dragon.
Monica Harden: Yeah, I don’t know what that one is.
Nick Stutzman: You’re just in a really elongated lunge.
Monica Harden: Ooh!
Nick Stutzman: And so, your legs can be propped up by either a block or a pillow of sorts.
Monica Harden: Right. Right.
Nick Stutzman: I’m just trying to hold it, but also not blow out my hamstring, I guess-
Monica Harden: Get a cramp and, “Ah!”
Nick Stutzman: Yeah. You’re holding for three or four minutes, but she’s like, “Just focus on your breathing. Just focus on your breathing.” And it’s like …
Monica Harden: You’re like, yeah, but you know, there’s a voice screaming in my head saying, “Why are we doing this? Why am I here?”
Nick Stutzman: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, you couldn’t even do that?
Monica Harden: No, couldn’t even do that. The injury I sustained was a classic one you see a lot in soccer. I was going for a ball, my knee twisted, heard a couple of pops, couldn’t walk on it. It was a Grade Two ACL, Grade One MCL, and then my medial meniscus also got a fun little bruise on it too.
Monica Harden: So, struggled with that one for about a year. Yeah, that thing swelled up like a balloon pretty quickly.
Dan Weber: So, you turned to lifting?
Monica Harden: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Dan Weber: And this is what helped get you out of that cycle?
Monica Harden: Yeah, it did. Well, because like I said, my knee got so badly injured, I was hobbling around the clinic, which seemed a cruel joke, being a doctor of health and fitness and then you can’t even walk around.
Monica Harden: But yeah, I got into lifting. Jake got me started into it, by framing it off of rehab first, like, “Let’s just have you do some single legwork.” And then, it went into getting stronger. Then I liked it, and I started wanting to put more weight on the bar, more, and more, and more.
Monica Harden: At one point, he was just like, “You know, you’re getting pretty strong for a girl.” He’s like, “How do you feel about competing?” I was like, “You can compete in this?” He was like, “Yeah!” I was like, “Hell yeah! Let’s do it! Let’s just sign up and do it.”
Monica Harden: So, I did. I trained for my meet, I peaked for it, and I fell in love with it because it was unlike any other sports experience I’d ever had. Because playing soccer and running track, you’re used to parents calling you names and people cheering against you.
Dan Weber: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Monica Harden: For the first time ever, I had girls that were stronger than me by tons and I had girls that were younger than me. They’re all screaming at you to get the weight. Everyone wants to see you succeed. No one wants to see you fail. I thought that was really cool. I had never experienced that in my life so that was neat.
Nick Stutzman: And it’s different too because you were playing from a team aspect and then you’re coming more from a solo aspect, where everyone can be supportive because you’re all competing for a prize of sorts. But in the end, everyone should want everyone else to succeed.
Monica Harden: Yeah. Well, I mean, on that token, it’s very personal. For someone who takes that journey of chasing strength and getting PR, it’s like, we all had to cross those bridges. We all had to pull 135 at one point. We all had to feel that weight on our back, pulling it off the ground.
Monica Harden: It’s kind of like as a veteran when you get to see some of these young kids or even people younger than you, that have that potential to be strong, it’s amazing to see because we’ve all had to cross that bridge to get there, and continue to push so it’s cool. I like that.
Dan Weber: Yeah. It seems like a really supportive community.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah.
Dan Weber: We’ve heard the same thing from other people that competed in powerlifting, that they just love the camaraderie that exists between people that have gone through it and even observers.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah. That’s fun too. Even people in the crowd, they don’t even have to understand the sport, it’s just fun to cheer. And then, of course, the snacks behind the scene is phenomenal. We’ve all been cutting, so donuts and gummy worms. You almost can show up to meets with no food and you will leave with a box of donuts, and 10 gummy bears, and bags and bags of other candy. It’s fun.
Nick Stutzman: We’ve interviewed somebody else, a female who was really into powerlifting, and she had more of a Type A personality.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah?
Nick Stutzman: Did you feel like that was something that you have?
Monica Harden: Oh, I am Type A. It’s actually funny because dating Jake and us being together, he actually mellows me out. He calms my Type A down to more of like a type AD, if that exists.
Nick Stutzman: A-ish?
Monica Harden: But yeah, I’m very type A. Yeah, type A-ish.
Monica Harden: But I think you have to be, especially when it comes to powerlifting because you are doing the same training program again, and again, and again, and pushing the weights a little bit more, a little bit more. And then, even every time you think you have … Like you have your perfect squat stance, you have your deadlift setup, you always have to go back to the basic and re-figure and re-shuffle things around. I used to pull conventional and I had a couple back strains. Now I pull sumo. Now it seems weird to go back to conventional.
Monica Harden: So, nothing is ever 100 percent set in stone, which is why I think you have to be Type A and in love with the process again and again.
Nick Stutzman: How did you feel with this journey? So, you got hurt, and you’re still in school or out of school, and then becoming a powerlifter. How did this translate into what you’re doing now?
Monica Harden: I would say it helped provide me a better understanding of load management and from an athlete perspective, that it is soul crushing when you get an injury and the first thing everyone tells you is like, “Well, just stop.” It’s like, “But I don’t want to. Why should I?” This isn’t just YOLO lifting gym bro stuff for me, I train. I train! This isn’t something I just do casually, especially when I’m training to compete. That’s a road. It’s a tough road and stuff can happen, but the eye is getting back on the platform.
Monica Harden: I think that’s really helped shape my perspective of empathizing with people that take their training seriously and they don’t want to be told something silly like that, like, “Oh, just don’t squat bro.” That doesn’t work.
Dan Weber: So, you’re trying to break down that myth and help people who have been in that situation get back to lifting heavy, training hard?
Monica Harden: Yeah. Exactly.
Dan Weber: Or doing so while managing an injury perhaps.
Monica Harden: Yes. It’s actually something I hear a lot. It’s not always the hardcore people that are like, “Oh, yeah.” You know, chest day every day. It can just be the people who just want to get in there, and just get in done, and just do it for their health and wellness. That is completely a perfect goal too. You don’t have to be pushing performance to benefit from it.
Monica Harden: I’m here to just manage that for you, and help you get back on track, and not let these injuries necessarily slow you down. Actually, it’s all about finding a workaround so you can keep doing what you want to do, and then get better.
Dan Weber: How rewarding has it been to do this in your practice and in the seminar that you’re now teaching? It seems like you’re getting really great feedback from people.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah. It’s been great. Honestly, the seminar that we’re teaching now, is the stuff I wish I could’ve learned when I was in school because it’s not … Especially, in the DC curriculum we talk about rehab and we learn some aspects of it, but what we’re teaching here and now, this is way better than anything I’ve ever gotten from my school.
Monica Harden: I’m glad to be able to turn around and help that next generation get better, be better, and think about things differently because the same old stuff is still being preached in some of these colleges. Maybe it will change someday, but I think if we turn a whisper into a scream, when it comes to some of this stuff, then you’ll start to see a wave of more practitioners that are thinking along these lines, and also training this way too.
Nick Stutzman: Do you think it’s just an antiquated way of thinking because of how it’s been taught in schools or is it because it’s so new that it’s now just becoming more on the forefront?
Monica Harden: I think the problem lies with two aspects of that. One, you have the same old stuff that’s always been there and it’s our history so you gotta always keep it around. It’s like, yeah, yeah, okay. How many times do I need to be told that BJ Palmer was a fishmonger? I mean, how does that help me with rehab? How does that help me with helping someone with an ACL injury? Nothing! It doesn’t. It’s just history, which is fine. We can pay tribute to the roots, but let’s evolve.
Monica Harden: And then the other part of that, is that it also depends on who’s teaching this stuff. If you do have some faculty members that may be more up on that research and into the more sports performance side, then you’ll see that.
Monica Harden: But as far as from the DC aspect, I mean you do have that weight coming. It’s slow, but it’s gaining speed. I think we need more of those kind of people in those faculty positions teaching this stuff.
Monica Harden: So, it’s just not there yet, not 100 percent, but it’s coming.
Dan Weber: The people that attend the seminars, is it mostly DC’s, is it PT’s, mixed?
Monica Harden: It’s actually interesting. Outside of the US, we get all healthcare practitioners. We get PT’s, we get DC’s. I haven’t seen too many occupational therapists, but maybe that might be changing. However, in the states, we get a lot of trainers.
Dan Weber: Okay.
Monica Harden: Which is, actually, I think it’s cool. I like it because it actually makes sense because they have to deal with people that come in with nagging injuries and pain a lot, and they still want to train. Actually, at the end of the day, you still gotta work with them too. So, it makes sense that you have to learn how to manage your patients as well as your clients.
Dan Weber: Absolutely. It’s interesting because I’ve had a bunch of injuries. I’ve gone through PT and come out a better athlete on the other side, and then thought to myself, “I wish I could hire a physical therapist to be my personal trainer.”
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah.
Dan Weber: And you know, that’s not what they’re in the market for.
Monica Harden: Yeah, that-
Dan Weber: When you find someone that actually can try to mix the two, I think it’s brilliant.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah. The cool part is, I have met some personal trainers that make me feel like I need to step up my game because they are phenomenal in how they coach, how they teach, and set things up.
Dan Weber: Yeah. The education has exploded in that field, I’d say, in the last 10 years.
Monica Harden: Which is awesome.
Dan Weber: Yeah.
Monica Harden: Which is really good to see. I think at the end of the day, we are really all on the same team because it’s all about that person. Whoever along that path, whether it’s me, or your personal trainer, whatever we’re all on your team and we’re here to see you succeed.
Dan Weber: Right.
Monica Harden: That’s the way I look at it.
Nick Stutzman: You’re balancing moving around, traveling, and these seminars, but also becoming a new mom.
Monica Harden: Yep. I have a son, who is 14-months going on 15-months now, and he is just way too smart and growing way too fast. I can’t keep up with him. I’m going to literally have to start incorporating cardio because he can walk now, so all bets are off. And he can unlock doors too, so that’s also fun.
Nick Stutzman: Little sneaky, sneaky.
Monica Harden: Oh, he is. He’s smart. I actually have to be very careful opening things in front of him because anything you learn as a parent, when your kid goes quiet, only one of two things are happening. They’re either about to scream and cry or they’re actually studying you. He studies me a lot, when he comes like unlocking doors, and this, and that, he’ll just go quiet and watch you. I’m like, “This is creepy. I don’t like it. I don’t like it.”
Dan Weber: So, he studies you.
Monica Harden: Yeah.
Dan Weber: I actually am curious, do you study him? I would imagine that a young child is … Maybe they don’t have as many bad habits. You want to keep that mobility, I guess, as long as you can in a sense. But do you learn about human movement from-
Monica Harden: It’s fun to watch him. You can watch him drop into a perfect squat.
Dan Weber: Yeah.
Monica Harden: But to some extent, I think the downside of having a parent who is heavily invested in all that and knows too much, you’re like, “Yeah, but your head is a really big counterbalance and you’re going to lose that eventually. Then you’re going to have to struggle like the rest of us to nail that squat with some weight.”
Dan Weber: Fair enough.
Monica Harden: But you know, it’s fun actually to watch him learn.
Dan Weber: Right.
Monica Harden: A little bit of a side note, most of my background, actually when I switched my majors at Purdue from BioChem pre-vet to movement sports science, which is kind of like exercise physiology … I don’t know why they call it movement sports science, it sounds so vague. Whatever. Anyway. A lot of it was development, child development. So, I read a lot of research papers about how babies learn and perceive the world.
Dan Weber: That’s interesting.
Monica Harden: They’re actually freaking amazing. They’re sponges.
Nick Stutzman: Then at three they lose it all.
Monica Harden: Yeah, maybe. I don’t know. I don’t remember much from that age so who knows.
Dan Weber: It becomes unconscious.
Monica Harden: Yeah, right.
Nick Stutzman: Going more for today with the Prehab101, I mean obviously your husband being involved with that, but how did you carve out your own niche with it?
Monica Harden: I take more of a supportive role, as in I assist, as in I’ll sometimes have to demo some of the exercises. But then I also go around the room and deal with peoples questions, answer any questions they might have with some of the exercises, or kind of more like getting presented with case studies.
Monica Harden: The thing that I find the most interesting is that as time has gone on, I get approached more and more by women, who are coming into the course, which I’m equally happy to see other female practitioner step up and come to these courses. But I do tend to get asked a lot of questions that are centered a little bit more around women’s health, and pregnancy, and all that because I did put myself out there on Instagram as the pregnant lady doing stretches and weird stuff. Like, well okay. She must know something, so all right. Let’s talk to her.
Nick Stutzman: Talk about that, social media.
Monica Harden: Sure.
Nick Stutzman: How has that affected your life and changed the way you’ve dealt with not only showing your workouts but being very personal with everything?
Monica Harden: It’s not something I would have guessed I would’ve ever done for myself because I do tend to be a pretty private person, actually. But I’ve grown to like it and I think it’s empowering because the stance I’ve taken with sharing this is that, from an educational standpoint, people do want to learn. So, why not give them good information so that they’re armed with that going out into the world? Because my God, you Google stuff into … You know, you look at WebMD, you might have a mole or it could be cancer. That’s a big range there.
Monica Harden: So, I say, let’s just give them something. Why not let them learn? Let’s teach them something good, that is somewhat valuable. And then, of course, sharing training and other aspects of my personal life, I think it also helps empower people to know that they’re not alone. If they’re struggling with anything or they’ve had any hardships that you’re not alone. There is someone out there. Maybe I can give you a voice or some kind of assurance that even some of us that look like we got it all together, we don’t. We’re always still trying to figure it out. None of us have it 100 percent.
Dan Weber: We’ll share your profile in the links, but you can also state it right now if you want, if you want people to follow you and learn from you.
Monica Harden: Sure. Give me a like, give me a follow at quaddoc. I’ll be there. Pretty much if you love my son, he seems to be really popular. He’s always all over my Instagram stories. You can see lifting and my kid doing silly crazy things along with my dog.
Dan Weber: Quaddoc is a great name.
Monica Harden: Thank you.
Dan Weber: I mean, I don’t even know how you got that one. You must have joined early.
Monica Harden: Actually, I did have someone come and tell me, “You have my Instagram handle that I wanted.” I was like, “I’m sorry.” I felt bad because he was a big muscular rugby player, and I’m five foot four and got some quads right now. But it was mostly because people would always ask me during the peak of powerlifting training, they were like, “Are you a bodybuilder because your legs are so huge? I want those.” I was like, health and fitness. These things are shrimps. I barely even have a quad sweep, but okay.
Nick Stutzman: I like how the Rock calls them “The beefs.” He calls them his beefs.
Monica Harden: Ah. I make fun of my arms. I call them chicken tenders that I’m trying to turn into chicken wings.
Nick Stutzman: I call mine pipe cleaners. They clean the pipes.
Monica Harden: There we go.
Nick Stutzman: We’ve got some shotgun questions for you.
Monica Harden: Oh, boy.
Dan Weber: Yeah. We know you guys have something to get to, so …
Monica Harden: Sure. Sure.
Nick Stutzman: Okay. This is every guest you give them some shotgun questions. First off, favorite cheat meal?
Monica Harden: I would have to say chicken curry, Thai red curry. That is a cheat meal. I would eat that all the time.
Dan Weber: I’m about the red curry too.
Monica Harden: All about that life.
Nick Stutzman: All right. You’ve got a philosophy of train hard, train heavy, and you’ll be surprised of what you can do. What is your favorite exercise movement?
Monica Harden: Oh, man. I would say deadlift. It’s so funny because I hated that lift the first time I learned it, but then after I saw how strong I was with it, then I fell in love with it, and then I definitely became a meathead, for sure.
Nick Stutzman: I think you might have touched on this, but we’ll see if it changes. If you could change one thing about your fitness career, what would it be?
Monica Harden: I think I would have tried to push maybe bodybuilding and well … I don’t want to disrespect bodybuilding, sorry. I think it would have been good to do a bikini competition or something, to go on the other aspect, the other end, not necessarily the strengthening but the aesthetics, mix that in, in my training. However, I think it would have been cool to try that from an athletic standpoint as well, going hard, stepping on stage, and putting yourself out there.
Dan Weber: Yeah. We know someone that did the powerlifting and then did the figure competition.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah. It’s not uncommon.
Dan Weber: I think it’s still doable.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah.
Nick Stutzman: Yeah.
Monica Harden: We’ll see.
Dan Weber: You’re young.
Monica Harden: It’s one of those things where, we’ll have to see. Right now, still trying to shed baby weight. That shred plan 2.0 is still in the works.
Nick Stutzman: Yeah, which leads to the next one. What’s next for Dr. Monica Harden?
Monica Harden: Well, so actually, we’re looking to open up an office. I’ll be working together with my husband and also a good friend of ours Joe. So, Joe Yoon, I’m putting you out there.
Monica Harden: I’m excited to step back into a team environment again, with working on patients and just getting more back into that because definitely-
Dan Weber: Helping people one-on-one with their problems.
Monica Harden: Oh, yeah. Yes, yes. So, looking more forward to doing that in a higher capacity I would say.
Nick Stutzman: Great. Last question, any pro tips that you want to impart on our audience?
Monica Harden: Pro tips. Well, if you are a student out there, I’m going to recommend you to step outside of your bubble. Go learn, go to seminars, go explore other schools of thought. It is something I wish I would have done more in school, to break out of chiro-land. And I did, and I liked it, but I wish I would have done it more often.
Monica Harden: So, don’t be afraid. Take advantage of the student pricing, and go learn because it is good to just hear other schools of thought and even other people in general. I loved learning from other physical therapists because I haven’t been disappointed by single one of those. But chiro’s, I’ve heard some weird stuff.
Monica Harden: But yeah, go out there, learn and explore, and just don’t be afraid to get your feet wet at times because it doesn’t hurt. Just learn.
Nick Stutzman: Education is key.
Monica Harden: Exactly.
Nick Stutzman: Big, big.
Dan Weber: Outro time…
Nick Stutzman: Thank you.
Dan Weber: Thank you
Nick Stutzman: Thanks for coming on.
Monica Harden: Thank you for having me. I appreciate this opportunity. As a first time doing a podcast, I can see the high. I like it. It is fun.
Nick Stutzman: Well, great. We’re glad we could be your first.
Dan Weber: Maybe we could try it again remote sometime.
Monica Harden: Yeah, we will. Thank you guys, appreciate it.
Dan Weber: Yeah, no problem.
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Trevor: This has been another episode of the HeroFit Podcast, making humans great again one podcast at a time.